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 Post subject: Re: A rare photocapture
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:23 am 
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This is getting crazy. Here's another bobcat-rattlesnake encounter. Unfortunately, it was posted on a newscast and the talking heads interrupt the sequence.

That's not all. Yes, here's yet another video taken by a very nervous person with a cell-phone. The viewers were not pleased with the shaky footage and didn't hold back in their comments.

I guess bobcats take rattlesnakes more often then we think.


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 Post subject: Re: A rare photocapture
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:35 pm 
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cameratrapcodger wrote:
This is getting crazy. Here's another bobcat-rattlesnake encounter. Unfortunately, it was posted on a newscast and the talking heads interrupt the sequence.

That's not all. Yes, here's yet another video taken by a very nervous person with a cell-phone. The viewers were not pleased with the shaky footage and didn't hold back in their comments.

I guess bobcats take rattlesnakes more often then we think.

So Chris, I'm assuming that Bobcats can consume the snake venom without any ill effects. However, if they somehow manage to get the venom into their bloodstream then they are toast. Would that be correct?

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Gary, I would guess they just don;t get bitten very often. My son-in-law is a vet, and he says he never gets cats with rattlesnake bites, but dogs with bites are not uncommon. As far as I know the only north american mammal that is immune to snake venom is the Virginia opossum. They have natural immunity. Dogs that receive rattlesnake vaccine develop limited immunity -- meaning they get sick but it doesn't kill them. I am not sure eating venom is as toxic as injected venom. I suspect it isn't. But if the fang injected venom into the esophagus for example, it would be the same as a bite. Regarding th scent rubbing, a herpetologist colleague just told me that all snakes have paired cloacal glands, which vary greatly in scent they produce -- some smell terrible others don't. Some leaked scent from the dead snake might have released scent rubbing in the bobcat.


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Gary, I would guess they just don;t get bitten very often. My son-in-law is a vet, and he says he never gets cats with rattlesnake bites, but dogs with bites are not uncommon. As far as I know the only north american mammal that is immune to snake venom is the Virginia opossum. They have natural immunity. Dogs that receive rattlesnake vaccine develop limited immunity -- meaning they get sick but it doesn't kill them. I am not sure eating venom is as toxic as injected venom. I suspect it isn't. But if the fang injected venom into the esophagus for example, it would be the same as a bite. Regarding th scent rubbing, a herpetologist colleague just told me that all snakes have paired cloacal glands, which vary greatly in scent they produce -- some smell terrible others don't. Some leaked scent from the dead snake might have released scent rubbing in the bobcat.

Thanks for the info., that's quite interesting.

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